tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post113332849342271308..comments2023-11-05T03:25:39.077-08:00Comments on Dave's Long Box: NEW MUTANTS #40 Marvel Comics, 1986David Campbellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06561127611004920764noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-11415539598941010132017-08-27T05:07:24.847-07:002017-08-27T05:07:24.847-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287821785570247118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-52954502583661114972007-04-14T12:14:00.000-07:002007-04-14T12:14:00.000-07:00Good Magneto was the bomb yo. But he was like the ...Good Magneto was the bomb yo. But he was like the annoying guy for the New Mutants. Like JJJ is for Spidey. The New Mutants would have some crazy adventure when they should've been training & at the end everything was happy & Magneto would be back, knowing it cause it was on the news. <BR/>"NEW MUTANTS! I saw you fighting Mojo in NY when you were supposed to be training. But I can't stay mad at you. Now clean the entire Danger Room while its turned on."<BR/><BR/>That douchbaggery was ehat made him cool in the Claremont times. Compared to being downright fuckin evilMister Sinisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02690819839623776684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133584981863182272005-12-02T20:43:00.000-08:002005-12-02T20:43:00.000-08:00Busiek's Wasp was good too, especially post-Avenge...Busiek's Wasp was good too, especially post-<B>Avengers Forever</B>, when he put her in charge of the team.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133546205504735022005-12-02T09:56:00.000-08:002005-12-02T09:56:00.000-08:00Cove West-Don't forget Peter David on Spectacular ...Cove West-Don't forget Peter David on Spectacular Spider-Man and Web of Spider-Man. Great stuff.<BR/><BR/>Dave, why must you diss the Wasp? During that era of the Avengers, written by the sure hand of Roger Stern, the Wasp was a tough-as-nails super-heroine. She could blast holes in concrete walls and bend steel bars. She took out Titania and the Absorbing Man with some assistance from Ant-Man. It's just that every writer before Stern and every writer since has made her out to be a weak airhead, which is a shame. The Wasp from the 80s was much cooler than any other version.<BR/><BR/>Those six Avengers were, indeed, one of the best Avengers lineups ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133502345929740452005-12-01T21:45:00.000-08:002005-12-01T21:45:00.000-08:00Claremont's Magneto was brilliant. Really, if you...Claremont's Magneto was brilliant. Really, if you read the breadth of his x-canon (if not the entirety--it's like a gillion comics!) it almost reads like one long Magneto story. Which makes what Lobdell, Nicieza, and Harras did in "Fatal Attractions" and afterwards such a travesty. I miss conficted Mags.<BR/><BR/>Was Marvel doing <I>anything</I> wrong in the mid-80's? Sure, there were hiccups, but when Stern's AVENGERS is considered "average" among the likes of Claremont's X-empire, Byrne's FF, Simonson's THOR, and Miller's DD, you know you're running on all cylinders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133469855257921682005-12-01T12:44:00.000-08:002005-12-01T12:44:00.000-08:00It is interesting....as this is Avengers Guest-Sta...It is interesting....as this is Avengers Guest-Star week, it would be interesting to note which version of the team made the MOST guest appearances in other titles.<BR/><BR/>I mention this only because it seems to me that the Cap/Wasp/Captain Marvel/Hercules/Black Knight team (Roughly Avengers #255-277) has had a vastly disproprionate amount of guest appearances based on their relatively brief time together.<BR/><BR/>I guess a lot of other writers were digging the beat that Stern was laying down.Brian Croninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06223181857448999287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133468663557477092005-12-01T12:24:00.000-08:002005-12-01T12:24:00.000-08:00I thought I posted, but it looks like I didn't, so...I thought I posted, but it looks like I didn't, so I'll write it again...<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing up one of my favorite comic books! New Mutants 40 is awesome for one more reason: the Barry Windsor-Smith cover. The determined Cap, the pained Magneto, the worried Warlock- beautiful. I bought this book because of its cover (same reason I bought a few issues before this one, which sported excellent Art Adams covers, including one inked by Bill Sienkiewicz!), and the story matched the quality perfectly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133446889098318982005-12-01T06:21:00.000-08:002005-12-01T06:21:00.000-08:00Magneto: "He'll totally drain their life forces.....Magneto: "He'll totally drain their life forces...!"<BR/><BR/>I can't help it, I'm really hearing the Keanu there, maybe a little too much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133440798717308542005-12-01T04:39:00.000-08:002005-12-01T04:39:00.000-08:00Having Hercules on your team is like having Kevin ...Having Hercules on your team is like having Kevin Nash be your World Champion.Rob Schambergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12423766523332323769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133438688264364072005-12-01T04:04:00.000-08:002005-12-01T04:04:00.000-08:00Namor to Magneto: "Your movements are clumsy, hamp...Namor to Magneto: "Your movements are clumsy, hampered by clothing..."<BR/><BR/>I seem to recall having made that observation on occasion with the ladies when I was a care-free youth... usually with a mode of voice not unlike that of Pepe LePew.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133411936876268212005-11-30T20:38:00.001-08:002005-11-30T20:38:00.001-08:00"Stuff like this really resonated with me when I w..."Stuff like this really resonated with me when I was a kid – Claremont wrote operatic stories about honor, loyalty, family, love, and closet lesbianism – and he threw in big super-brawls on top of all that. It’s what made the X-Men books stand out from all the other monthly titles the Big Two were publishing at the time; they had heart."<BR/><BR/>That's the best encapsulation of the X-Men's appeal I've ever read. Seriously. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you as far as following the X-books now, although even Whedon couldn't hold my attention. I did love Milligan and Allred's X-Force/X-Statix, though, more the former than the latter. Also I love Hercules casually dissing Thor. That's great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133411918442324312005-11-30T20:38:00.000-08:002005-11-30T20:38:00.000-08:00"Stuff like this really resonated with me when I w..."Stuff like this really resonated with me when I was a kid – Claremont wrote operatic stories about honor, loyalty, family, love, and closet lesbianism – and he threw in big super-brawls on top of all that. It’s what made the X-Men books stand out from all the other monthly titles the Big Two were publishing at the time; they had heart."<BR/><BR/>That's the best encapsulation of the X-Men's appeal I've ever read. Seriously. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you as far as following the X-books now, although even Whedon couldn't hold my attention. I did love Milligan and Allred's X-Force/X-Statix, though, more the former than the latter. Also I love Hercules casually dissing Thor. That's great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133410037143797992005-11-30T20:07:00.000-08:002005-11-30T20:07:00.000-08:00The thing that I find interesting about this issue...The thing that I find interesting about this issue, especially in hindsight, is that in those days I would (and did) buy a comic because of the guest star on the cover. I wasn't a NM reader at the time, but I was loving The Avengers, so I grabbed this book. Does that still happen these days, or are today's readers way too smart for that sort of thing?Sheep!https://www.blogger.com/profile/12087135010077383333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133409185251333982005-11-30T19:53:00.000-08:002005-11-30T19:53:00.000-08:00Thanks, Ken. I forgot about the use of powers can...Thanks, Ken. I forgot about the use of powers cancelling about the mind control.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481137891542684401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133401724084091392005-11-30T17:48:00.000-08:002005-11-30T17:48:00.000-08:00I don't know, that thin wild mercury sound. Clare...I don't know, that thin wild mercury sound. Claremont's got some devoted fans who will follow him onto pretty much any X-book, so it makes good market sense to have at least one title catering to that clientele. At any given time, it seems reasonable for Marvel to provide the Claremont take for readers who want to buy it. I think Quesada's said things to that effect before.<BR/><BR/>Not that I'm one of those people, mind you. I find most of Claremont's post-80s work pretty boring.<BR/><BR/>I've never read these old <I>New Mutants</I> issues. I'm kind of holding out for an Essential at some point in the future. If <I>X-Factor</I> got one, it's hard to imagine <I>New Mutants</I> not receiving one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133399098211008712005-11-30T17:04:00.000-08:002005-11-30T17:04:00.000-08:00Oooh I don't know. While Herc is cool for all the ...Oooh I don't know. While Herc is cool for all the reasons you outline, his presence on an Avengers team is usually a sign of a dubious line-up.<BR/><BR/>Not as dubious as if The Forgotten One were on the team, but still.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133399016880438662005-11-30T17:03:00.000-08:002005-11-30T17:03:00.000-08:00How exactly does Namor talk underwater, anyway? Ne...<I>How exactly does Namor talk underwater, anyway? Never figured that out.</I><BR/><BR/>He can talk underwater because he can breathe underwater. Duh, Dave.Mark W. Halehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14784515521673578776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133394390013451522005-11-30T15:46:00.000-08:002005-11-30T15:46:00.000-08:00"I always hated that they revealed that Moira had ..."I always hated that they revealed that Moira had used mind control on Magneto. What a stupid idea. I always liked Magneto's difficulties with being a good guy and his long journey to that stage. It makes Emma's current "I just felt like it, and isn't Scott delicious" thing even more shallow."<BR/><BR/>The whole Moira reprograms Magneto thing didn't actually affect his reformation; it turns out her process didn't work very well (it would get cancelled out once Magneto or whoever else was being controlled used their powers), so it really wasn't the retcon it at first appeared to be.Ken Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07400143779106653189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133390348799898042005-11-30T14:39:00.000-08:002005-11-30T14:39:00.000-08:00I always hated that they revealed that Moira had u...I always hated that they revealed that Moira had used mind control on Magneto. What a stupid idea. I always liked Magneto's difficulties with being a good guy and his long journey to that stage. It makes Emma's current "I just felt like it, and isn't Scott delicious" thing even more shallow.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481137891542684401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133388718682902472005-11-30T14:11:00.000-08:002005-11-30T14:11:00.000-08:00You're determined to make a New Mutants fan out of...You're determined to make a New Mutants fan out of me, aren't you?Bill D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18013121134005443309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133388448196773892005-11-30T14:07:00.000-08:002005-11-30T14:07:00.000-08:00This was one of my favorite New Mutant issues. I ...This was one of my favorite <B>New Mutant</B> issues. I liked the fact that Magneto had to play a good guy and a father-figure -- two roles he's never been good at historically. I especially like the part where all the New Mutants -- the kids he supposedly kidnapped -- showed up to rescue him. I seem to recall Illyana teleporting away Cap's shield at one point..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11827637.post-1133386580146173972005-11-30T13:36:00.000-08:002005-11-30T13:36:00.000-08:00I'm not wild about good Magneto's costume with his...I'm not wild about good Magneto's costume with his evening gown gloves, but yeah, good Magneto was more interesting than bad Magneto.smokedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08884539019311115228noreply@blogger.com